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pto
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:13 pm    Post subject: A New Cache type? Earthcaches Reply with quote

Here is the link to the Geological Society of Americas "earthcache" page-

Has anyone else looked into this?

An Earthcache is an educational virtual geocache through which visitors learn about the fascinating planet on which we live its landscapes, its geology or the minerals and fossils that are found there.

Geocaching is an outdoors phenomenon, which is growing rapidly worldwide on a daily basis. Geocaching is an adventure game for Global Positioning System (GPS) users. It involves the creation and placing of caches by players and the subsequent searching and locating of these caches by other players. The main site for Geocaching is www.geocaching.com.

Earthcaches are developed by geocachers in association with the Geological Society of America, Groundspeak and their partners.

Anyone can develop an Earthcache by following the simple Earthcache guidelines and submitting the cache for review and approval via the Geocaching.com web site.


There is also a Forum topic on gc about it.

Any thoughts on this? Good, bad, ugly, commercial, anti-caching, pro-virt,etc?
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KC0GRN
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it'll be interesting to see how the details pan out. I'm sure as usual there'll be people that like and people that dislike the idea.

Personally from what little I know of them yet, they sound like an interesting idea, and possibly a step in the right direction with park services, getting them to notice the benefits of geocaching instead of focusing on the negatives.
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Kitch
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ummm...where's the link?

I looked on gc's threads...nothing under earthcache.....

I did a google search for "earthcache and geocaching"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=earthcache+geocaching

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=113977


http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest.aspx?key=Earthcache&submit4=Find

Looks like a reg. caches and a 2 reg. virts. to me....
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pto
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here is the link to the Geological Society of Americas "earthcache" page-


"Here" is linked- but it goes to
http://www.geosociety.org/earthcache/

The topic is at:
http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=77126
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Marsha and Silent Bob
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kitch wrote:
I looked on gc's threads...nothing under earthcache.....

You weren't looking very hard. I found three different threads that mentioned it. Including one where Jod has finally decided to open a Sandbox server for releasing "updates" before seriously retarding the rest of the site with his staff's poorly written code.

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Looks like a reg. caches and a 2 reg. virts. to me....

Yeah it looked like another reason to place a VC and have it approved. Just what we need. Yet another place holder for a 526 ft. radius that could be used for somethigng cool.
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King Boreas
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.geosociety.org/EarthCache/projects.htm

I KNEW money was involved.
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Kitch
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oops...I'm sorry ...I found the links...about 2 secs...after I opened up my big fat mouth!!!



I blame Kitch!
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Marsha and Silent Bob
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

King Boreas wrote:
I KNEW money was involved.

geocaching.jeep.com or geocaching.gsa.subaru.com?
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pto
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least they dont use "wow factor" in the guidelines.....
How will any Ever make it past the GC approval step? The canned reply of "put a container nearby blah blah" will stop them dead in thier tracks-
Ah, they will have to C.....C......C...Change?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amazing how much this sport changes every 6 months.

I have no other comment.

-Aaron
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rickrich
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Purely educational virtuals were not approved by gc.com in the past year. Virtuals had to have some "wow" factor to the location, as well as being clearly unable to support a container. Container caches that can hold TB's and now Jeeps being the main way that gc.com raises money.

It will be interesting to see if those rules will apply equally to earthcaches, or if they will get a special exemption, or if the rules for VCs in general will be relaxed to allow educational virtuals again.

BTW SB, it makes absolutely no sense to me to enforce the .1 mile separation rule w.r.t. virtuals. You don't need to separate nothing from nothing and nobody is going to confuse nothing with something.

For the record, I am *for* earthcaches. I am also *for* virtuals. I am also *for* locationless. I am also *for* waypointing dogpiles. I am also *for* wet containers submerged under swampgrass Smile. I am pretty much *for* anything with a waypoint that is legally placed and doesn't consistute a dangerous situation. You don't like 'em, filter them out and don't hunt them. Somebody else *will* hunt them, and enjoy the hunt. There is no accounting for taste.

-Rick
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Wayfarin Stranger
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rickrich says:
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For the record, I am *for* earthcaches. I am also *for* virtuals. I am also *for* locationless. I am also *for* waypointing dogpiles. I am also *for* wet containers submerged under swampgrass Smile. I am pretty much *for* anything with a waypoint that is legally placed and doesn't consistute a dangerous situation. You don't like 'em, filter them out and don't hunt them. Somebody else *will* hunt them, and enjoy the hunt. There is no accounting for taste.


Amen...I agree
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KC0GRN
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well put rickrich, I think the same.
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Kitch
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the MORE the better.... I agree...
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Marsha and Silent Bob
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rickrich wrote:
BTW SB, it makes absolutely no sense to me to enforce the .1 mile separation rule w.r.t. virtuals. You don't need to separate nothing from nothing and nobody is going to confuse nothing with something.

It makes no sense to me either but they still do it. Until the time that Jod and his minions understand the adverse effect of the .10 ruling w/re to VCs I don't think they should be approved (money backed "educational" ones or otherwise).

If they decide that you, Stranger, and KC0GRN are right then I am 100% behind approving all the VCs in the world.
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