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Have you ever come across a hunter in the woods while geocaching?
Yes
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No
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 44%  [ 22 ]
not sure, I may have
2%
 2%  [ 1 ]
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Mn-treker
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work with 3humphs and hunt. I see that some one suggests an air horn.
Don't do it, under Minnesota law you may not interfear with a hunter.
If you sound that air horn you will be arrested not just ticketed.
If you see a hunter up a tree look at him and wave then leave the area quietly.
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sigilwig44
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mn-treker wrote:
I work with 3humphs and hunt. I see that some one suggests an air horn.
Don't do it, under Minnesota law you may not interfear with a hunter.
If you sound that air horn you will be arrested not just ticketed.
If you see a hunter up a tree look at him and wave then leave the area quietly.


Sorry, I didn't know that. I don't know much about hunting but I thought that might be a good idea.
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RudeRat
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If jogging at night, something reflective is a good idea, but the drivers of the cars passing by are not bad people. They’ll look for joggers and avoid hitting them whether they’re reflective or not. When in the woods during hunting season, wearing something that can be seen is also a good idea, but not because hunters are dangerous and bad people. Just like you don’t want to run over a jogger with your car, I don’t want to injure someone in the woods. Drivers get their safety training and hunters get theirs. I think that statistically you’re taking a greater risk getting to the parking coords than getting to the cache.

http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/hunting/tips/myths.html
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tonkaMN
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RudeRat wrote:
I think that statistically you’re taking a greater risk getting to the parking coords than getting to the cache.


And wearing bright colored clothing in the woods during hunting season is like wearing your seatbelt when you drive. It won't guarantee that you won't get hurt, but it will reduce the chance of it happeing.
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jicknarson
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AerosmithPA wrote:
sigilwig44 wrote:
Hunters can be dangerous



Hunters go through safety courses, geocachers do not. Hunters are accountable for unsafe actions by the threat of losing their hunting privileges, geocachers are not. Wear orange, be aware of where hunters may be.


+1

I wear an orange hat from now until first week of December (and the dog wears orange, too). Rifle season, for deer, I stay out of the woods. I love being out there, but I have all year, and those hunters have a couple of weeks. I also wear blaze orange in ANY area during this time, unless it is unquestionably urban and therefore not hunting territory. Be safe out there!
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emmanogoldfish
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mn-treker wrote:
I work with 3humphs and hunt. I see that some one suggests an air horn.
Don't do it, under Minnesota law you may not interfear with a hunter.
If you sound that air horn you will be arrested not just ticketed.
If you see a hunter up a tree look at him and wave then leave the area quietly.


It's tough to prove intent on this one, usually it's just a talking to.

Once there was a guy, college professor that ran through one of the hunts wearing a Santa hat, ring and bell and singing Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer, I think at best all that ended up happening was a talking to, not even a trespass.


97A.037 HUNTER, TRAPPER, AND ANGLER HARASSMENT PROHIBITED.

Subdivision 1.Interference with taking wild animals prohibited. A person who has the intent to prevent or disrupt another person from taking or preparing to take a wild animal or enjoyment of the out-of-doors must not disturb or interfere with that person if that person is lawfully taking or preparing to take a wild animal. "Preparing to take a wild animal" includes travel, camping, and other acts that occur on land or water where the affected person has the right or privilege to take lawfully a wild animal.
Subd. 2.Disturbing wild animals prohibited. A person who has the intent to prevent or disrupt a person from lawfully taking the animals may not disturb or engage in an activity that will tend to disturb wild animals.
Subd. 3.Persons intending to harass hunters, trappers, and anglers may not remain on land. A person who has intent to violate subdivision 1 or 2 may not enter or remain on public lands, or on private lands without permission of the owner.
Subd. 4.Peace officer order; penalty. A person must obey the order of a peace officer to stop the harassing conduct that violates this section if the officer observes the conduct. For purposes of this subdivision, "harassing conduct" does not include a landowner's or lessee's action to enforce the Trespass Law. Violation of this subdivision is a misdemeanor.
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tonkaMN
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who, being in right mind, would mess with a hunter up in a tree with a rifle that can shoot hundreds of yards? It doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
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GeoPierce
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only come across mushroom hunters while caching. Smile
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Draconisdax
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeoPierce wrote:
I've only come across mushroom hunters while caching. Smile

Becareful...they take that hobby very serious...they rarely share their "hunting" grounds with eachother...
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casinoman
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeoPierce wrote:
I've only come across mushroom hunters while caching. Smile


While I live un Minnesota I too came across thease weird people ( as if we are not weird Wink Wink )
I told them i had just come across some mushrooms not far away and led them to some of the biggest ball mushrooms I had ever seen. and we talked about caching and mushrooms we both learned alot that day. I now look at theose weird people and the weird grothes on the forest floor diffrently.
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AerosmithPA
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tonkaMN wrote:
Who, being in right mind, would mess with a hunter up in a tree with a rifle that can shoot hundreds of yards? It doesn't sound like a good idea to me.



No responsible hunter (or any sportsman I know) would EVER point a firearm in the direction of another human being. Even unloaded. Even if the hunter were provoked by someone harassing them. See my previous post. Safety is preached to and by hunters to protect their sport.

If a hunter were to act with such irrational behavior which you imply, they would have a very hard time finding partners to go hunting with, as other hunters would not want someone like that around them.
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tonkaMN
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AerosmithPA wrote:
tonkaMN wrote:
Who, being in right mind, would mess with a hunter up in a tree with a rifle that can shoot hundreds of yards? It doesn't sound like a good idea to me.



No responsible hunter (or any sportsman I know) would EVER point a firearm in the direction of another human being. Even unloaded. Even if the hunter were provoked by someone harassing them. See my previous post. Safety is preached to and by hunters to protect their sport.

If a hunter were to act with such irrational behavior which you imply, they would have a very hard time finding partners to go hunting with, as other hunters would not want someone like that around them.


I know that 99.99% of hunters treat firearms with the utmost respect and would never point a gun at someone. I just remember what happened in Wisconsin several years ago where a hunter shot and killed several other hunters who had asked him to leave their land. I know it was someone with some mental health issues and hopefully will never happen again, but it just shows that you need to be especially careful out in the woods.
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AerosmithPA
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tonkaMN wrote:
Who, being in right mind, would mess with a hunter up in a tree with a rifle that can shoot hundreds of yards? It doesn't sound like a good idea to me.




tonkaMN wrote:
I know it was someone with some mental health issues


And I suggest people with mental and any assortment of health isses are driving cars too, but we non chalantly walk in the crosswalk in front of them. We need to be aware, but not live in fear of them. Don't mess with hunters or people driving 3000 pound vechicles.
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RudeRat
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The woods are no more unsafe today than they were a week ago, but yet the subject comes up every year. Personally, I think walking down the sidewalk you pass more guns, you just don’t see them. There is an underlying feeling to this thread that hunters are bad, unsafe people. If a geocacher kills someone while caching in a hobo camp, will you point to him as an example of a geocacher the way the idiot in Wisconsin is pointed to as an example of a hunter? Car accidents, biking accidents, boating accidents, hunting accidents. Why just hunting? Where are the other threads? Of these four, hunting is the least threatening statistically, but is talked about the most. How many of you have been caching on a bike trail and almost been run over by a bike? Where’s the thread for that? It is unfortunate many feel the need to stay out of the woods during hunting season. You don’t need to, and with a little education and understanding I think you’d realize that.
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tonkaMN
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope the hunters don't feel like they are being picked on. Accidents happen everywhere. I just think it is a good idea to not cache where people are hunting, just like I don't like to cache where drunks are driving.
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