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bflentje Geocacher

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:38 am Post subject: Attributes |
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Not sure how long they've been there but just noticed some cool new attributes today.
- Tree Climbing
- Seasonal Access (puts that snowflake debate to rest)
- Tourist Friendly
- Front Yard (private residence)
- Teamwork Required |
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sigilwig44 Geocacher

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:34 am Post subject: Re: Attributes |
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| bflentje wrote: |
Not sure how long they've been there but just noticed some cool new attributes today.
- Tree Climbing
- Seasonal Access (puts that snowflake debate to rest)
- Tourist Friendly
- Front Yard (private residence)
- Teamwork Required |
I noticed those too. It was implemented in the latest update.
| bfjente wrote: |
| (puts that snowflake debate to rest) |
What was (and is) the snowflake debate? |
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team_geomonkey Geocacher

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:49 am Post subject: |
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I just also noticed the "show beginner caches" option when doing a pocket query. If you check that box you get this message: Beginner caches are highlighted in green below and are recommended for new geocachers. Scroll to the bottom and uncheck the setting "Highlight beginner caches" to stop highlighting caches
Is this a new feature?? |
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JJnTJ Geocacher

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: Attributes |
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| What was (and is) the snowflake debate? |
Here's my understanding. The "snowflake" attribute says that the cache is "available in the winter". Some people take this to mean different things:
1) it's "winter-friendly" - not on the ground, not in the water, etc.
2) literally "available in winter" - the owner doesn't remove the cache during winter months; it is there waiting to be found.
Critics of #2 assert that if the container is removed during winter, the cache should be disabled until the container is replaced. Saying that an enabled cache is "available" is redundant; the cache is there, even if encased in ice underneath 12 feet of hard-packed snow. How bad do you want it?
Critics of #1 assert that winters in this godforsaken state are so unpredictable, calling something "winter-friendly" is just setting people up for disappointment. Like when a plow dumps 5000 cubic feet of dense-packed snow on the hide-a-key on a guardrail.
You can probably search the forum for "snowflake" or "winter friendly" to get a better feel for the debate.
In my limited experience, #1 is the more common view, and it's useful enough that I have a little "*" displayed on my 60CSx if the owner selected the attribute. |
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Guitar Solo Geocacher

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| team_geomonkey wrote: |
I just also noticed the "show beginner caches" option when doing a pocket query. If you check that box you get this message: Beginner caches are highlighted in green below and are recommended for new geocachers. Scroll to the bottom and uncheck the setting "Highlight beginner caches" to stop highlighting caches
Is this a new feature?? |
As never seeing it before, I belive it is new. I may use this when caching with younger people or people that really don't get geocaching. |
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swfan Geocacher

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| The maximum number of attributes is 15 now. Is that also new from the last update? |
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Pear Head Past MnGCA President

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bflentje Geocacher

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: Attributes |
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| JJnTJ wrote: |
| sigilwig44 wrote: |
| What was (and is) the snowflake debate? |
Here's my understanding. The "snowflake" attribute says that the cache is "available in the winter". Some people take this to mean different things:
1) it's "winter-friendly" - not on the ground, not in the water, etc.
2) literally "available in winter" - the owner doesn't remove the cache during winter months; it is there waiting to be found.
Critics of #2 assert that if the container is removed during winter, the cache should be disabled until the container is replaced. Saying that an enabled cache is "available" is redundant; the cache is there, even if encased in ice underneath 12 feet of hard-packed snow. How bad do you want it?
Critics of #1 assert that winters in this godforsaken state are so unpredictable, calling something "winter-friendly" is just setting people up for disappointment. Like when a plow dumps 5000 cubic feet of dense-packed snow on the hide-a-key on a guardrail.
You can probably search the forum for "snowflake" or "winter friendly" to get a better feel for the debate.
In my limited experience, #1 is the more common view, and it's useful enough that I have a little "*" displayed on my 60CSx if the owner selected the attribute. |
To clarify, the snowflake icon has/had two different definitions depending where on geocaching.com you were looking. I do not know if they are yet consistent but I would guess they are. |
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sigilwig44 Geocacher

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| team_geomonkey wrote: |
I just also noticed the "show beginner caches" option when doing a pocket query. If you check that box you get this message: Beginner caches are highlighted in green below and are recommended for new geocachers. Scroll to the bottom and uncheck the setting "Highlight beginner caches" to stop highlighting caches
Is this a new feature?? |
Yes! That's new too. I wonder how they determine that?
| JJnTJ wrote: |
| sigilwig44 wrote: |
| What was (and is) the snowflake debate |
Here's my understanding. The "snowflake" attribute says that the cache is "available in the winter". Some people take this to mean different things:
1) it's "winter-friendly" - not on the ground, not in the water, etc.
2) literally "available in winter" - the owner doesn't remove the cache during winter months; it is there waiting to be found.
Critics of #2 assert that if the container is removed during winter, the cache should be disabled until the container is replaced. Saying that an enabled cache is "available" is redundant; the cache is there, even if encased in ice underneath 12 feet of hard-packed snow. How bad do you want it?
Critics of #1 assert that winters in this godforsaken state are so unpredictable, calling something "winter-friendly" is just setting people up for disappointment. Like when a plow dumps 5000 cubic feet of dense-packed snow on the hide-a-key on a guardrail.
You can probably search the forum for "snowflake" or "winter friendly" to get a better feel for the debate.
In my limited experience, #1 is the more common view, and it's useful enough that I have a little "*" displayed on my 60CSx if the owner selected the attribute. |
Ahhhh...
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| The maximum number of attributes is 15 now. Is that also new from the last update? |
Yup, that too. I like that new feature!
TFTL (thanks for the link) .
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| I wonder how they determine that? |
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| Added an option in search results to highlight "beginner caches" (low difficulty/traditional type/recently found etc.) |
Ahhhhh... didn't see that. |
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Pear Head Past MnGCA President

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