MnGCA

[Guitar Solo]

I keep seeing this.

[pfalstad]

[Brooklyn51]

For a long time, we thought it meant poke-and-feel.

[Red_Devil35]

[RudeRat]

I try hard not to use the PAF option unless I feel the cache is missing or the coords are off. I may make a call after a 20 minute search for a 1.5/1.5 regular for example, but prefer to contact the CO for a hint. If all the logs say the coords are off, I’m calling someone for a nudge in the right direction if my initial search comes up empty. I’ve learned that if the cache really evil, good luck with the PAF. Until you’ve put in as much search time as the person you’re calling, you aint gettin nuttin but a evil laugh and a good luck wish!
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Ahhhhhhhh, the power of cheese!

[bflentje]

[sparkyfry]

[Pear Head]

[bflentje]

[Hunter-Killer]

I recall using a phone a friend with Ghost640 on one of his caches, when the dust settled, Kathy and I walked away from it with a DNF, a headache and a craving for a stiff drink We got it though on the way back home. Most phone a friends go rather well though, and save you the trouble of routing through wet and moldy contents. Get it before the usual happens.

[ST11]

I would do this all the time however I have a Phone but no friends

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[Trekkin' and Birdin']

I think the use of PAF depends on the team's intentions as cachers. We see it a lot around here, and have noticed the same phenomenon Bart mentions. Tough, tough hide, then someone gets a hint and it's amazing how quickly it's found after that. So be it.

We pretty much stopped using the phone a couple years ago, though we didn't rely on it heavily in the first place. We like to find all the caches we seek, but decided we wanted to find them ourselves....or not...rather than feel we'd cheated ourselves. I know others just really want to get them all and not have to DNF caches. That's a whole different subject that's been beaten to death, but I think they kind of go hand in hand. If someone calls us about one of our caches, we're more than happy to offer whatever level of help they want, but if it's a cache belonging to someone else....especially one that took us several visits or a long time....it's "call the cache owner."

[RudeRat]

I had one of the cachers in the top 10 list call me 8 times one day. I was starting to feel I was providing a hint prior to him arriving at GZ. I don’t really care, but his position in the list does not impress me because of this. To me, that would be as much fun as asking a grocery store attendant where the plain yellow mustard is, then pushing my cart over their and placing it in. Then ask him where the buns are and go grab those. It’s all about the number of items you can scan at the self serve checkout. Fun Fun!!
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Ahhhhhhhh, the power of cheese!

[tonkaMN]

When I use PAF it is because I want to know if I am looking in the right area. As long as I know that I am searching where the cache actually is, I know that I will find it (eventually). Sometimes I get more info than that when I call, but that is not what I am after. I use PAF more for easy caches than for difficult ones. If it's a 1.5 difficulty and I can't find it in 5 minutes then something is wrong. I'm just trying to find out what is wrong (bad coords, my GPSr acting up, missing cache, under-rated, etc.) But I'm not going to criticize anyone else for using PAF to help them find a cache. You play the game however you want. For me, I like to find them without help whenever possible.

[ST11]

I use my phone so they can find - ME!