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State Forest label requirement on micros
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kc9gbo
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PakLid,
No problem on the thesis comment, actually it helps bring into focus a bit and may lead to further discussion.
I'm currently wondering on the size specifications as the person creating the guidelines must have just copied the State Park specs and never considered anything larger. Although I wouldn't want to be out enjoying the forest and stumble upon a garbage can labeled Geocache out in where I am wandering.

Never realized they created the requirements at seperate times.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They were actually asked about the maximum size restriction. It was pointed out to them that a container maybe double or triple the volume they listed would be more appropriate for a maximum as these would be out in a forest. They kind of held firm on the small ammo can size as the standard for a maximum cache size. The 400 cu in inclusion was a nod to our point that not all caches are going to be ammo cans with those specific dimensions so they have a volume restriction instead.

So, they might consider something larger, but it would be outside the guidelines and you should get specific permission ahead of time. If they were asked enough times and the answer was always "yes", they might consider changing the guidelines. For them (the state forests), changing the guidelines is MUCH easier than it is for the parks. If they decide to change them, they just do - they were able to get their guidelines put together in a very short timeframe, whereas the parks have levels of approval and committee meetings and generally more careful oversight before committing to a policy or guideline.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paklid wrote:
They were actually asked about the maximum size restriction. It was pointed out to them that a container maybe double or triple the volume they listed would be more appropriate for a maximum as these would be out in a forest. They kind of held firm on the small ammo can size as the standard for a maximum cache size. The 400 cu in inclusion was a nod to our point that not all caches are going to be ammo cans with those specific dimensions so they have a volume restriction instead.

So, they might consider something larger, but it would be outside the guidelines and you should get specific permission ahead of time. If they were asked enough times and the answer was always "yes", they might consider changing the guidelines. For them (the state forests), changing the guidelines is MUCH easier than it is for the parks. If they decide to change them, they just do - they were able to get their guidelines put together in a very short timeframe, whereas the parks have levels of approval and committee meetings and generally more careful oversight before committing to a policy or guideline.


Perhaps it would be useful to have the board approach the DNR with regards to the SF policy and see how it's working for them, and perhaps ask for some changes to it if they've have a positive response.

Besides increasing the volume, changing the labeling requirements (which is what started this thread) would be useful.
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kc9gbo
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the ammo cans for those of you bemoaning my use of micros in the woods... Razz The one in camouflage was to be the final for the muti, don't think anyone would have a hard time finding these cans.
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As for the requirements it is probably like anything else, just need to be reviewed and adjusted as things change and happen.
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