MnGCA

[knowschad]

[Jam3s]

[bflentje]

I've finally checked out the new site and it is pretty lame. The open-source based OpenCaching.us has much more functionality.

[Jam3s]

[bflentje]

[speedysk1]

Anyone else hear pandora's box is being opened. It's certainly could only bring us good things.
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[knowschad]

[speedysk1]

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[knowschad]

I'm in total agreement with you, although you worded it much, much better than I could have. There will be benefits in software features, and perhaps responsiveness to user's requests, but that is the little picture. What you pointed out is the Big Picture. Cool new features on the website will be of little use if we can't hide caches. Thanks for wording that side of the problem so succinctly!
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[bflentje]

[speedysk1]

I just listened to PodCacher's interview with Jake from Garmin. And I couldn't be more disappointed. He repeated Garmin doesn't want to tell people what's right or wrong and other comments like that. Let the "community" decide what's good or bad. And they suggested that having caches listed virtually immediately vs a review was somehow a better process. Wow...Next we will have coffins disguised as geocaches placed in parks. So, I decided I'd do as suggested and head to their forums and I was not really surprised by what I saw. It was a lot of "banned" or members that have gotten in trouble by GS for various things spouting off how great the site is because there are not any rules. On the flip side I think this has spurred Groundspeak to pick up the pace on some features that are often requested, which is good. I like that they will have open APIs to "trusted" 3rd parties. Ok that's fine, they don't want other listing sites to pull in their data. They also will be rolling out an more robust mapping tool. Again, good for everyone. So if you want some amusement or are tired of the mud flinging on groundspeaks forums, head over to opengeocaching.com's forums. They are great. There doesn't seem to be any moderators, so have at it and name call all you want. On Groundspeaks site you can only fling mud, on OC.com's you can fling..well about whatever you want there aren't any rules. Anarchy is the name of the game.

Ok, that was a bit snarky, but I've already seen caches listed that are "too close" to one another. One on one site, one listed on the other. What happens when this is done in a park that we've worked so hard over the years to establish relationships with? In all seriousness are you willing to risk caching being banned because of these other sites? No other site, which is the problem, works harder to keep this game we play around. No other site works with companies to provide tools to play. No other site works harder to ensure the sport is legitimized. So, what is the benefit to having these other sites if they only seem to work to cause problems for most other caches. In other words they are the 1%'ers. I certainly don't agree with Groundspeak on everything they do, but in the end they are the best site. What I fear about this venture with Garmin is they will steer newbies to their site and the cancer that is these other sites and poor practices will only spread.
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[bflentje]

[kc9gbo]

Have to agree with both sides, but what everyone is fearing to happen has started to down here. We have a local cache hider who placed a couple of caches and found out he was too close to others, so instead of going to retrieve them he left them out and just listed them on OC.com. Same hider last night placed a cache in a rest area in Mn. that I currently have a cache at and I'm monitoring that one closely to see what happens. Have a feeling if it gets pulled from GC it will just show up on Oc. Time will tell, but I don't have a warm happy feeling right now.

[speedysk1]

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