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AerosmithPA MnGCA Board

Joined: 19 Nov 2005
Posts: 563 Location: Grand Rapids
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:10 am Post subject: |
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First off, I too am very pro competition, anti monopoly. But I do not see myself registering with, hiding opencaches, or logging opencaches.
I have several concerns about opencaching, one being as others have stated the lack of a review process. Also of huge concern to me is the fact it is sponsored by a corporation which has a serious financial interest in our game. These are the people who have brought us Whereigo's and the Chirp, which I understand cater exclusively to Garmin clients. One can only wonder what they would have in mind if they were to some day actually compete with Groundspeak in policing our game.
I feel if I were to register with opencaching it would help Garmin solidify their position in selling banner space on their website by saying we have xxx,xxx number of members, thus legitimizing opencaching and in turn hurting the game of geocaching.
I welcome competition to Groundspeak to make Groundspeak always strive to keep us the customers happy and to keep the game affordable, but I am very hesitant about the competition being opencaching. |
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15Tango Past MnGCA Chair

Joined: 17 Dec 2002
Posts: 826 Location: St. Paul
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:56 am Post subject: |
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I just got the latest software upgrade for my Garmin Oregon 450, and it changed the icon on the geocaching button from the Groundspeak logo to the generic "found cache" treasure box icon. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that is due to opencaching.com. _________________ There comes a time in every young boy's life when he gets an irresistible urge to seek buried treasure.--Mark Twain |
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spd2662 Geocacher

Joined: 29 Nov 2008
Posts: 59
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Have you tried zooming in on the maps? It's like they flew over in an airplane. The clarity is amazing. I posted some of my caches and zoomed in and you can almost see the cache itself  |
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knowschad Geocacher

Joined: 20 Jun 2005
Posts: 448 Location: South St Paul
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spinowner Geocacher
Joined: 25 Nov 2004
Posts: 561 Location: Plymouth, MN
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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The viability of a website is measured by the number of hits it receives. Those who are concerned about the possible negative ramifications of opencaching would do best to ignore it. If cachers stay away in droves it will eventually dry up or at least be irrelevant. _________________ Sig line? I don't need no stinking sig line! |
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bflentje Geocacher

Joined: 29 May 2006
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| spinowner wrote: |
| The viability of a website is measured by the number of hits it receives. Those who are concerned about the possible negative ramifications of opencaching would do best to ignore it. If cachers stay away in droves it will eventually dry up or at least be irrelevant. |
In addition, if we inundate it with hits and with suggestions about how it should work properly, we might also have some good competition to the frog. |
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knowschad Geocacher

Joined: 20 Jun 2005
Posts: 448 Location: South St Paul
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| spinowner wrote: |
| The viability of a website is measured by the number of hits it receives. Those who are concerned about the possible negative ramifications of opencaching would do best to ignore it. If cachers stay away in droves it will eventually dry up or at least be irrelevant. |
Just ignore it and it will go away? Denial is generally a pretty ineffectual weapon. _________________ Alcohol & calculus don't mix. Don't drink & deriv |
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spinowner Geocacher
Joined: 25 Nov 2004
Posts: 561 Location: Plymouth, MN
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| knowschad wrote: |
| spinowner wrote: |
| The viability of a website is measured by the number of hits it receives. Those who are concerned about the possible negative ramifications of opencaching would do best to ignore it. If cachers stay away in droves it will eventually dry up or at least be irrelevant. |
Just ignore it and it will go away? Denial is generally a pretty ineffectual weapon. |
Point well taken as applied only to an individual. However, if everyone ignores it it's a different matter. _________________ Sig line? I don't need no stinking sig line! |
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spinowner Geocacher
Joined: 25 Nov 2004
Posts: 561 Location: Plymouth, MN
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| bflentje wrote: |
| spinowner wrote: |
| The viability of a website is measured by the number of hits it receives. Those who are concerned about the possible negative ramifications of opencaching would do best to ignore it. If cachers stay away in droves it will eventually dry up or at least be irrelevant. |
In addition, if we inundate it with hits and with suggestions about how it should work properly, we might also have some good competition to the frog. |
I think making suggestions to the frog would be just as helpful. _________________ Sig line? I don't need no stinking sig line! |
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emmanogoldfish Geocacher

Joined: 26 Oct 2007
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:40 am Post subject: |
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At the very onset I interpreted this as Garmin and Groundspeak were in negotiations for GC.com, the frog wanted way more money than it was worth so Garmin took this route. They will in the end own GC.com.
Competition. it's cyclical isn't it, usually ends up back at a monopoly or at the least collusion dressed as competition? |
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JJnTJ Geocacher

Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Without reviewers, I wonder how long it will take for a place to be placed in a park against the rules, found by a park official, and get geocaching kicked out of parks permanently. Again.
Would it be sensible for COs with caches in parks to load theirs into opencaching.com and disable them? Assuming they have a .1 mile limit, that would help discourage new caches from being placed in parks.
It's probably considered abuse (or at least rude), but might help protect geocaching as a park activity until OC.com realizes the need for reviewers and good park relations. |
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Moe the Sleaze Geocacher

Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Posts: 1134 Location: Champlin, MN
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| emmanogoldfish wrote: |
| At the very onset I interpreted this as Garmin and Groundspeak were in negotiations for GC.com, the frog wanted way more money than it was worth so Garmin took this route. |
Interesting theory but absolutely untrue. _________________ "Hi, I'm Moe, or as the women know me - Hey! You in the bushes."
-Moe, The Simpsons |
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Jam3s Geocacher

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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:04 am Post subject: |
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| bflentje wrote: |
| we might also have some good competition to the frog. |
Where is the like button? _________________ ~~ I was told all I needed was a GPS. I wanted everything else. ~~ |
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Grey Wolf and Wild Rice Geocacher

Joined: 31 May 2005
Posts: 343 Location: White Bear Township
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Hunter-Killer Geocacher

Joined: 25 Apr 2009
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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The newest flavor is opencaching dot com.  |
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