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Pear Head
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewmcc wrote:
Pear Head wrote:


I think the process starts and ends at the individual park, but it involves HQ in the middle.

One of the things that is done when you submit a cache application is it's compared to a database of known off-limits areas in the park (which include protection of plants, artifacts, etc). Most (none?) parks don't have their own person that does this - there is one person that covers multiple parks.


Exactly! The folks in my park have been there for 17 and 18 years in did not even know the site of an endangered plant ( that of course is where I wanted my cache to go)


When I did the History Challenge cache at Moose Lake I worked with the lady that did this job (I forget what the position is actually called). In the process she told me quite a bit about it (as we hiked around the park). A lot of the how's and why's (they don't tell people about the stuff as then people go and check it out and actually make things worse). Very informative. We also (of course) had to check out an animal kill, some plants, etc, along the way. Smile
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msrubble
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heads up for those wanting to place a cache in a state park. There is a new permit application form, dated September 15, 2009.

Apparently the hider of an approved cache must renew annually.

Caches may not be placed in buildings or structures.

Completed applications can be submitted by mail.

The DNR no longer says they will notify applicant by e-mail and hard copy; now it will be by e-mail OR hard copy.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

msrubble wrote:
Heads up for those wanting to place a cache in a state park. There is a new permit application form, dated September 15, 2009.

Apparently the hider of an approved cache must renew annually.

Caches may not be placed in buildings or structures.

Completed applications can be submitted by mail.

The DNR no longer says they will notify applicant by e-mail and hard copy; now it will be by e-mail OR hard copy.



Maybe I missed it, but I don't see anything in their own guidelines for placing a geocache that talk about renewing a permit.

Further, when I read the permit I saw the section that talked of renewing the permit was worded in such a way that the onus for taking any kind of action was on the DNR. They say they will notify cache hiders annualy if there are any problems or if the cache needs to be renewed. Maybe I read it wrong though.

Taken together, I don't think owners of existing State Park caches are required to do anything about renewing unless asked specifically to do so. If there's an issue and a cache hider is contacted, it makes complete sense to comply with their request to maintain, archive, or renew.
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msrubble
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guidelines didn't change, but the application for permit did.

You are right in saying that the DNR will contact the hider annually.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

msrubble wrote:
Caches may not be placed in buildings or structures.


Oh, do you mean like the cache at Scenic or the one at William O'brian??
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bflentje wrote:
msrubble wrote:
Caches may not be placed in buildings or structures.


Oh, do you mean like the cache at Scenic or the one at William O'brian??


History cache at Gooseberry.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd imagine already-approved caches are grandfathered in. Then, too, park staff has more leeway in hiding caches in the state parks than "private" geocachers do.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pear Head wrote:
bflentje wrote:
msrubble wrote:
Caches may not be placed in buildings or structures.


Oh, do you mean like the cache at Scenic or the one at William O'brian??


History cache at Gooseberry.


Gooseberry and William are very similar, but the container at William was.... let's just say it was designed and colored appropriately. Laughing
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