MnGCA Home MnGCA
Minnesota Geocaching Association
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   User listUser list   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Group Hides

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    MnGCA Forum Index -> General
View previous topic :: View next topic  

Do you log a find on a group hide?
Yes, since you don't actually own the cache,
39%
 39%  [ 11 ]
No, you know where it is, so there's nothing to find.
57%
 57%  [ 16 ]
What's a geocache?
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 28

Author Message
speedysk1
MnGCA Board


Joined: 29 Oct 2007

Posts: 1766
Location: Mound MN

PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:48 am    Post subject: Group Hides Reply with quote

Just curious what your thoughts are on group hides and logging of them. For example, my brother and I have 2 caches that we hid together. So, I "own" one and he "owns" the other on gc.com. But everytime I run a pocket query for that area it shows up as the closest unfound cache?

So, in cases like this should/can you log the cache?

What say you?
_________________
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Pear Head
Past MnGCA President


Joined: 04 Apr 2004

Posts: 4490
Location: north of Duluth

PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Esko and I own one multi like this. I own the listing and hid stage 1 (sorry for those who have done it) and he owns stage 2. Neither of us were present when the other hid their respective stage. I've logged it (when I found stage 2) and I believe he has logged it too.

It's all how you play the game. To me it was a cache that I hadn't found (albeit not a multi) so I logged it, regardless of ownership.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger
Bunganator
Geocacher


Joined: 09 Apr 2008

Posts: 230

PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went with Lbungert to place some of his island caches so he had someone to paddle with. I also logged those as finds, BUT I didn't until I took Roxygen and paddled out there on a separate occasion. The hides for them arent terribly difficult, the point was to paddle (or trek accross ice) to get them. Once I fullfilled that on my own, I felt ok logging them.

Another option in general is to place the cache with another cacher, wait a year, and then go find it. Chances are it will be in a different location. In fact, I have a pine tree cache (no comments need to be made about this Wink ) that was actually replaced in the WRONG tree. The thing was small enough as it is (the camo made the difference), and it took forever to find it.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
X51hz
Geocacher


Joined: 04 Dec 2007

Posts: 182

PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have but only after others have been finding it for awhile, mostle just to get it off my PQ for the area
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bflentje
Geocacher


Joined: 29 May 2006

Posts: 2266

PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I would log it if I don't own it. But if I log the find at the same time it was hidden, I would reserve the FTF spot for the actual FTFer. I can't say this has happened for me though more than twice.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
King Boreas
Geocacher


Joined: 16 Dec 2002

Posts: 2012
Location: Exploring Minnesota

PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bflentje wrote:
Yes, I would log it if I don't own it. But if I log the find at the same time it was hidden, I would reserve the FTF spot for the actual FTFer. I can't say this has happened for me though more than twice.


I'm glad this was started. Many of my hides have been placed BECAUSE others were along. When on a road trip with a group, I might hide a cache while they search for one. When we meet up, I'll give them the coordinates, and tag along.

The log will be signed with an open spot for FTF.

It doesn't matter who, and there have been several, but why should they drive 80 miles in the future, to find a cache that they're 1000 feet away from?

Heh, I get better coordinates too.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
EskoClimber
Past MnGCA President


Joined: 24 May 2005

Posts: 795
Location: Duluth area

PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I co-own a couple of caches. One of the is with Pear Head which I have logged and one is in the Black Hills with DakotaHillbillies which I haven't and will not log.
I was deeply involved with the one in the Black Hills and saw its construction, layout, and final location. Since it was three of us that put that one together and we were all involved in its placement and we all saw it hidden, I couldn't justify claiming that I "found it".
Pear Head and I co-own a cache. Since I wasn't present when he put that $%#@* nano on the locomotive, nor did he inform me as to its location, AND since I found it in the dark without a flashlight, I logged it as a find. The only thing I knew about the first stage was the coordinates.

The difference being that I felt one was a justified since I had look for it just like any other cache and the other I had hidden for all practical purposes.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
divercth
Geocacher


Joined: 03 May 2008

Posts: 74
Location: Eden Priairie, MN

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

X51hz wrote:
I have but only after others have been finding it for awhile, mostle just to get it off my PQ for the area


Wouldn't adding the cache to your "ignore" list do the same thing?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ghost640
Geocacher


Joined: 03 Nov 2006

Posts: 250
Location: Independence, north of Twig

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pear Head wrote:
Esko and I own one multi like this. I own the listing and hid stage 1 (sorry for those who have done it) and he owns stage 2. Neither of us were present when the other hid their respective stage. I've logged it (when I found stage 2) and I believe he has logged it too.

It's all how you play the game. To me it was a cache that I hadn't found (albeit not a multi) so I logged it, regardless of ownership.


Not a multi, and the stage you found was about 1000 times bigger than the one you hid! Maybe more...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Pear Head
Past MnGCA President


Joined: 04 Apr 2004

Posts: 4490
Location: north of Duluth

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ghost640 wrote:
Pear Head wrote:
Esko and I own one multi like this. I own the listing and hid stage 1 (sorry for those who have done it) and he owns stage 2. Neither of us were present when the other hid their respective stage. I've logged it (when I found stage 2) and I believe he has logged it too.

It's all how you play the game. To me it was a cache that I hadn't found (albeit not a multi) so I logged it, regardless of ownership.


Not a multi, and the stage you found was about 1000 times bigger than the one you hid! Maybe more...


So who's counting? Wink
_________________
Hmm...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger
gmansan
Geocacher


Joined: 03 Dec 2008

Posts: 1

PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:20 pm    Post subject: I would not log a find Reply with quote

If I helped hide a cache, I would not log th find, as I did not "find" it. I had this situation on one cache that we hid as a Golden Cache for a fellow cacher celebrating his 1000th find. There was a group of about five of us that went out to hide it. It is very close to where I live, so it would normally keep showing up on my PQs. So, I just clicked the Ignore Listing on the cache listing page and no more showing up on the PQs. Simple as that.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bflentje
Geocacher


Joined: 29 May 2006

Posts: 2266

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: I would not log a find Reply with quote

gmansan wrote:
If I helped hide a cache, I would not log th find, as I did not "find" it. I had this situation on one cache that we hid as a Golden Cache for a fellow cacher celebrating his 1000th find. There was a group of about five of us that went out to hide it. It is very close to where I live, so it would normally keep showing up on my PQs. So, I just clicked the Ignore Listing on the cache listing page and no more showing up on the PQs. Simple as that.


That's the beauty of geocaching. You get to ignore it and I get to log it and everyone is happy.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
rogheff
Geocacher


Joined: 05 Nov 2005

Posts: 18
Location: Kenosha/Nashwauk

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I logged a find on a cache that I helped hide. Why? Well, I was in the area and decided to check on it. I couldn't find it - it wasn't where we left it. I went home, downloaded the coords, and went hunting for the cache.

As it turns out, it was moved by ??? about 50 feet or so.

The worst part? It was a piano that I couldn't find. %$#& Baldwin!!

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=0ca4e0ee-bcf4-4127-8e56-f8fdfe09136b

Since I did everythign that any other seeker would do, I logged a Smile
_________________
http://diamondwillow.homestead Rogheff's hiking stick site
http://rogheffgeocaching.homestead.com Rogheff's geocaching site
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    MnGCA Forum Index -> General All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group
Geocaching Cache Icons, Copyright 2009, Groundspeak Inc. All rights reserved. Used with Permission.