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New caches popping up in regulated parks!

 
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CB-GPSERS
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2003 10:34 pm    Post subject: New caches popping up in regulated parks! Reply with quote

Two new caches have popped up in parks that will soon be regulated...
What, if any, conclusion did we come to, on our current responsibility for these?

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=48717
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=48715
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King Boreas
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grrrrrr
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towlebooth
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just emailed John Moriarty of Ramsey County, inviting hime to share his thoughts here. Thanks for bringing this up CB.
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Centris
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well -- they are basically newbies -- their first two caches. They are more than likely unaware of the situation.
They still have until April to be moved to unregulated spots, it'll be OK. John M will take care of it then.

I went and checked on the "Sporting Chance" cache this afternoon. It's a good first cache, nice hide. I had not been to this park area ever before, it is dog friendly and bike friendly.
This is a VERY WELL USED park and trails, several well marked inlets and maps along the paved trails, and the cache is within 4 feet of an established bike trail - no volunteer trails to this cache.
Paul and I also saw several signs along the paved trail that said this was a Ramsey County Open Space. I thought the open spaces were in a different classification than the park system. (or not?)

I see a whole slew of new geocachers who started right after Christmas -- hopefully we get them in here and up to speed on the new stuff that is happening in the spring before any more caches are placed.

KB-- getting a little territorial there? (grrrin) Wink
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Subrosas
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 10:10 pm    Post subject: Our Caches Reply with quote

We are happy to move our caches if necessary, no need to growl at us Sad Centris is correct - we are unaware of the situation. What exactly is it? Certain parks are coming under new regulations? We'd like to do the right thing.

Tom aka one half of Subrosas
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towlebooth
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry about the king, his grrrowl is worse than his bite! Very Happy

Thanks for joining in the discussion, Subrosas. This is why we formed this group. Ramsey County is very supportive of geocaching, but wants to limit the number of caches within each park that they oversee in order to reduce our environmental impact. There has been a lot of healthly debate over this and the county has listened to our thoughts, feelings, and ideas and are close to publishing their final regulations. At our last meeting Mr. John Morarity of Ramsey County shared a draft of the regs and park cache limits and cachers (bravo kingboreas) have begun removing extra caches. These new regulations will not go into effect until April 1. A good rule of thumb to follow until the final regs are published is to not place a cache in a park that is owned by Ramsey County or called "Regional" and lies within Ramsey until we know the cache limits that they set. Last we heard the county is close to publishing - maybe by mid February.

We will be linking to the regulatiuons from the various counties as they go public with them.

Thanks again for joining in the discussion, communication is key!
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King Boreas
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no need to growl at us

I knew you had no way of knowing ...

It's all very frustrating, tho
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Abe&Carly
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're pretty frustrated also, having found a few parks that a cache would be good in and having to wait to see what comes of the regulations. We're with the King on this one.
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EelSid
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 11:03 am    Post subject: Park regulations Reply with quote

Since the regulations aren't in effect yet we can always place them now and see if they will be grandfathered in! The worst that could happen is they would have to be retrieved.
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