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spinowner · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:06 am Post subject:

While there are cachers who don't like caches that require stealth, many cachers do. Not all caches are appropriate for a group hunt after dark, especially if the cachers are in a boisterous mood. Hiding a container that looks like a pipe bomb in the bushes in front of a federal courthouse is probably a bad idea, but I think it's good that there are caches listed that require stealth for those who like that type of challenge. If a particular cache is not what you like, don't go after it. But don't call them bad hides just because you happen not to like that type of cache.
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drat19 · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:17 am Post subject:

Marsha and Silent Bob · Past MnGCA President Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 6261

Take the disagreements about cache types, cache pages, and cache hides to PM. Cool?
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Moe the Sleaze · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:41 am Post subject:

Marsha and Silent Bob · Past MnGCA President Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 6261

spinowner · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:05 am Post subject:

I chose not to PM about this point because I think open discussion on this point is good. I will say that I agree with Dave in that I think it is the duty of the cache owner to make searchers aware of what they will be encountering at the cache site. Stating that stealth will be required is the same principle as telling people about any other conditions at the cache site, be it terrain, requirements for tools, the need to project with your receiver, whatever. If the cache is legally placed and searchers are aware of what is in store for them it becomes a matter of personal taste. It's perfectly legitimate to have the opinion that a cache s***s, but that doesn't make it a bad cache for everyone. Someone else's equally legitimate opinion could be that the cache is great.
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Moe the Sleaze · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:44 am Post subject:

celticwulf · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:48 am Post subject:

I think the one problem I've seen is "stealth required" is really open to interpetation. I'm finding this out as I'm trying to figure out the description for a cache I'm hiding where I know stealth will be required in the summer to avoid the cache being muggled, but it's going to be in a park so it's not a "you're on private property" issue. But I've seen other caches that are "stealth required" because it's an iffy situation on placement...the placement is legal but also can be seen as questionable.

I would say for sure it's up to the cache hider to make sure the warnings are in place for people prior to the search...and if they aren't there on some questionable ones, it's up to us as finders to let them know they may want to add some warning information on the cache page. And we all need to work together, especially if the person is new at hiding caches, to make sure we do NOT make them decide that hiding is not worth it. I've seen a few caches where the finders were not so diplomatic about thier opinions, and it caused caches to archived with TB's in place...we need to remember that on the other end of our log is a real person who does have feelings...

well, that is unless it's a yeti...we make fun of them all the time Wink

Just my thoughts

Celticwulf

CamoCacher · Geocacher Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Posts: 1391

Well hit the cache that began this discussion and while there was one house close all where pretty far up and seemed to be an okay hide. I enjoyed this hide and find.

I definatly agree different hides for different types.