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Marsha and Silent Bob Past MnGCA President
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KC0GRN Past MnGCA Board

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| Post a find if you found the magnet |
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5savages Geocacher

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That's a cool site! Thanks for the link. I had bought rare earth magnets from http://tinyurl.com/z0xu before but this looks like a better deal. I don't need any more, but I'll probably cave in to temptation and buy these.
Is there any better way to attach these to something than using superglue? I had experimented with superglue to attach one to the bottom of a pill bottle but the magnet is so strong that it force of pulling it away from metal surfaces eventually caused the magnet to break free of the bottle.
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Marsha and Silent Bob Past MnGCA President
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:38 am Post subject: |
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| 5savages wrote: |
| I had experimented with superglue to attach one to the bottom of a pill bottle but the magnet is so strong that it force of pulling it away from metal surfaces eventually caused the magnet to break free of the bottle. |
Make the finder have to unscrew the cap while the cache is in place. Rare Earth magnets aren't really suitable for removing/reattaching -- at least in my limited experience. _________________ Sad state of affairs. |
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KC0GRN Past MnGCA Board

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| I believe one of the better glues would be the "Gorilla Glue" you can find at a hardware store. The application process though is kind of strange from what I've heard, but that stuff is supposed to permanently bond most anything (not like superglue, this stuff is more like an epoxy). |
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5savages Geocacher

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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| I believe one of the better glues would be the "Gorilla Glue" you can find at a hardware store. |
Good idea! I even have some of this at home. |
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:41 am Post subject: |
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It doesn't even work that well for regular magnets. I wouldn't recommend it. _________________ Sad state of affairs. |
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5savages Geocacher

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I was messing around with my rare earth magnets and figured out that they are strong enough to work through the material I'm using them on. As such, I'll then glue them in the INSIDE of the container so the action of pulling the container off the host metal will be a compressive force at the glue joint, rather than a tensile force, thereby eliminating any tendency for the magnet to detach.
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jrest Geocacher

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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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Now that is a really good idea. Glued inside, and still working. _________________ round n' round we go! |
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I have a couple super micro's ( the nitro pill containers) that I used epoxy to hold the magnets on. I even sandblasted them before attaching. One of them came off after about 3 months. I tried Gorilla glue and that wasn't a whole lot better. I ended up drilling a hole in the end of the container a few thousandths undersize and press fit the magnet in the hole. I did get some capillary action from rain so I put a dab of silicone on the magnet before pressing it in. So far it seems to work fine.  |
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5savages Geocacher

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I had trouble using superglue and gluing a rare earth magnet to the inside of a film canister so I ended up taping it on the outside. I criss-crossed the tape on the bottom, then up the sides. Then I wrapped more tape around the circumference. Works well.
Today I found this FAQ on REM's:
http://www.kjmagnetics.com/faq.asp
They indicate JB Weld works well. I'll have to try it. I just bought their suprise sampler kit:
http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=JSS&cat=102 |
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Interesting. Their Neo Mag Safty page includes this warning: "Never allow neodymium magnets near a person with a pacemaker or similar medical aid."
I'd be leery about placing such a thing in/on a cache. My father-in-law (with a pacemaker) has been out on a few cache hunts. |
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5savages Geocacher

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I'd be leery about placing such a thing in/on a cache. My father-in-law (with a pacemaker) has been out on a few cache hunts. |
I'd think you'd have to get it pretty close for it to have any effect. Perhaps a warning on the cache page would be sufficient. |
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You also have to avoid contact with moisture with REM's. They rust very quickly if not totally covered. But, boy, are they powerful! Radio Shack has some (about $2/pair) that are about 1/8" diameter and it still takes some effort to separate them. Magnets from newer harddrives can actually break a finger bone if you get caught between them as they're slamming shut. _________________ Alcohol & calculus don't mix. Don't drink & deriv |
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