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Mario and Princess Peach
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:03 am    Post subject: Liquor Stores Closed on Sunday Reply with quote

What's your opinion of Liquor Stores being required to be closed on Sunday? I'm no drunk, but if I'm going to drink, I'm more apt to do it on the weekend, which can be inconvenient if the liquor stores are closed for 50% of the weekend.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spending the majority of my life in states where buying beer was only a matter of going to the gas station or mini market and buying it, I have a hard time understanding how Minnesota is still living in the dark ages when it comes to alcohol sales. It was a "big" victory moving to a 2am closing time on bars! My first time sitting in a bar I was quite shocked to see last call at 12:30 and was even more surprised to find that I was unable to buy some beer to sit at home and watch the Vikings game on Sunday.

IMHO, 10pm closing times on stores that sell alcohol only promotes DUI because people who might want a drink have to go to a bar.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well this IS Minnesota and it IS the nanny state. If the powers that be weren't looking out for us, who knows what would happen to us.

Probably the best situation I've ever been in, beer buying-wise, was going to school in Fargo. When the bars closed, if you were quick enough, you could get to the liquor store just before they closed, to continue the festivities at somebody's apartment or dorm room. And this from a state that had (or still has?) blue laws, closing down most of the retail stores on Sunday.

Fargo was great for beer drinkers. We commonly would find $1 pitchers, even on Friday nights with a live band playing. For a while the bar across the street from us started this special where when they'd open on Saturday morning at 8 or 9am, pitchers of beer would start out at 50 each, increase by a quarter every half hour until they were $2.50 in the afternoon.

I'd like to see MN open the liquor stores on Sunday and let them open until 11am or so every night. I hate having to plan my drinking in advance, which a 8pm closing on weekdays does for me.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not the state that requires off-sale liqour store to be closed on Sunday, it's each individual city. My town has opened it's municipal liqour store on Sundays on a test basis to see if it makes money. BTW, it is the only off-sale liqour store in town.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomslusher wrote:
It's not the state that requires off-sale liqour store to be closed on Sunday, it's each individual city. My town has opened it's municipal liqour store on Sundays on a test basis to see if it makes money. BTW, it is the only off-sale liqour store in town.

From: Hours and Days of Sale (340A.504)

Quote:
Subd. 3. Intoxicating liquor; Sunday sales; on-sale.
(a) A restaurant, club, bowling center, or hotel with a seating
capacity for at least 30 persons and which holds an on-sale
intoxicating liquor license may sell intoxicating liquor for
consumption on the premises in conjunction with the sale of food
between the hours of 12:00 noon on Sundays and 2:00 a.m. on
Mondays.

(b) The governing body of a municipality may after one
public hearing by ordinance permit a restaurant, hotel, bowling
center, or club to sell alcoholic beverages for consumption on
the premises in conjunction with the sale of food between the
hours of 10:00 a.m. on Sundays and 2:00 a.m. on Mondays,
provided that the licensee is in conformance with the Minnesota
Clean Air Act.

(c) An establishment serving intoxicating liquor on Sundays
must obtain a Sunday license. The license must be issued by the
governing body of the municipality for a period of one year, and
the fee for the license may not exceed $200.

(d) A city may issue a Sunday intoxicating liquor license
only if authorized to do so by the voters of the city voting on
the question at a general or special election. A county may
issue a Sunday intoxicating liquor license in a town only if
authorized to do so by the voters of the town as provided in
paragraph (e). A county may issue a Sunday intoxicating liquor
license in unorganized territory only if authorized to do so by
the voters of the election precinct that contains the licensed
premises, voting on the question at a general or special
election.

(e) An election conducted in a town on the question of the
issuance by the county of Sunday sales licenses to
establishments located in the town must be held on the day of
the annual election of town officers.

(f) Voter approval is not required for licenses issued by
the Metropolitan Airports Commission or common carrier licenses
issued by the commissioner. Common carriers serving
intoxicating liquor on Sunday must obtain a Sunday license from
the commissioner at an annual fee of $50, plus $20 for each
duplicate.

While it's not strictly verboten they have made you jump through enough hoops that it makes it difficult to get the license.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Subd. 3. Intoxicating liquor; Sunday sales; on-sale.



SB, from what I can tell your cite of the law concerns only on-sale serving of alcohol, not off-sale sales.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomslusher wrote:
SB, from what I can tell your cite of the law concerns only on-sale serving of alcohol, not off-sale sales.

From the link I provided in my post above, directly under the section I posted (emphasis mine):

Quote:
Subd. 4. Intoxicating liquor; off-sale. No sale of
intoxicating liquor may be made by an off-sale licensee:

(1) on Sundays;


(2) before 8:00 a.m. on Monday through Saturday;

(3) after 10:00 p.m. on Monday through Saturday at an
establishment located in a city other than a city of the first
class or within a city located within 15 miles of a city of the
first class in the same county;

(4) after 8:00 p.m. on Monday through Thursday and after
10:00 p.m. on Friday and Saturday at an establishment located in
a city of the first class or within a city located within 15
miles of a city of the first class in the same county, provided
that an establishment may sell intoxicating liquor until 10:00
p.m. on December 31 and July 3, and on the day preceding
Thanksgiving day, unless otherwise prohibited under clause (1);

(5) on Thanksgiving Day;

(6) on Christmas Day, December 25; or

(7) after 8:00 p.m. on Christmas Eve, December 24.

IANAL, but it appears to me that in order to sell on Sundays you must have an on-sale license and have the public vote to permit it in addition to paying for the license.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But now after reading SB's site I see the following subdivision

Quote:
Subd. 4. Intoxicating liquor; off-sale. No sale of
intoxicating liquor may be made by an off-sale licensee:

(1) on Sundays;

(2) before 8:00 a.m. on Monday through Saturday;

(3) after 10:00 p.m. on Monday through Saturday at an
establishment located in a city other than a city of the first
class or within a city located within 15 miles of a city of the
first class in the same county;

(4) after 8:00 p.m. on Monday through Thursday and after
10:00 p.m. on Friday and Saturday at an establishment located in
a city of the first class or within a city located within 15
miles of a city of the first class in the same county, provided
that an establishment may sell intoxicating liquor until 10:00
p.m. on December 31 and July 3, and on the day preceding
Thanksgiving day, unless otherwise prohibited under clause (1);

(5) on Thanksgiving Day;

(6) on Christmas Day, December 25; or

(7) after 8:00 p.m. on Christmas Eve, December 24.


I just checked with my local "muni" and only the on-sale is open on Sunday. No off-sale. I stand corrected. So on Sunday afternoon don't bother driving down here to get s jug of whiskey. Go to Wisconsin instead. Sorry for the confusion.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomslusher wrote:
So on Sunday afternoon don't bother driving down here to get s jug of whiskey. Go to Wisconsin instead.

tomslusher


While I'm there, I'll pick up a couple cartons of cigarettes. Should save enough for a jug of whiskey.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And decent fireworks too.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I started brewing my own (I hope TPTB in the land of 10,000 regulations don't start messing with that, too) if I don't have beer to drink on Sunday, it's my own fault.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...what confuses me is we are the last state to go down to .08...but yet we are TIGHT on Sunday laws.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minnesota= the State Where Absolutely Nothing is Allowed.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, wait... isn't this a Sunday?!? What is this thing that I have sitting next to my keyboard? Why... it's a beer that I bought yesterday!

I agree with all of these posts... it is a stupid law. If you want beer on Sunday, you buy it on Saturday... doh! Or you buy 3.2 beer from a convenience store. Or you brew your own (getting ready to give it my 1st try, 15Tango).
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This cracked me up.

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/rel_liberty/free_exercise/topic.aspx?topic=blue_laws
"President George Washington was charged with violating a Connecticut blue law in 1789, according to David N. Laband and Deborah Hendry Heinbuch, who cite a report on the incident in their 1987 book, Blue Laws: The History, Economics and Politics of Sunday-Closing Laws. Washington's travel from Connecticut to New York violated a law against unnecessarily walking or riding on Sunday. Ironically, he was on his way to church at the time. Washington was allowed to continue his journey only after promising to travel no farther than the town he intended to visit."
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