MnGCA

towlebooth · Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:39 am Post subject:

I too wish we had a local approver as Wisconsin does.

Having said that I also want to say thanks to mtn-man for his help.

Pear Head · Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:10 pm Post subject:

In addition to the other words of thanks, I want to again offer mine. While I am on the side of those that believe we should have a local approver, I also understand that we DON'T have one. I don't always agree with some of mtn-man's decisions (as he knows), I respect the fact that he is what I believe to be a fair reviewer that is following the rules that have been established.

I still believe we need a local (state) approver however.

Also, I want to thank mtn-man for his participation in our forums. It shows an interest in caching in MN, and I'm happy to see him answering some questions here (and taking some heat, justified or not).

pto · Geocacher Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 136

Im curious to know how many 'total' approvers there, and what the average amount of states each person covers ??
Whos got SD?, ND?, IA etc-? Is it important to compare surrounding areas and how its handled elsewhere?
Wouldnt comparing other regional areas, and the process be valuable in figuring out what works, and why?(how, etc)

I realize in some cases, people can cover 2,3 or 4 states that arent very populated, as the workload would be less.

Wisconsin can have one, Minnesota can Not. Wait, I believe it might even be 2? or more? I havent really looked into it, but I'd still rather have a Wisconsin approver review something since they are more likely to have a closer understanding of MN, and its areas - or might have possibly already worked with someone involved with a certain area. With 2 for WI (If thats accurate)
each person has a backup, so when personal tragedy affects you, you have an option. WE have an option.
mtn-man- with all due respect I feel sorry for all your family troubles, and understand your feelings toward this - but to reverse your same argument on you-

MN cacher: "I hid a cache 2 weeks ago- sheesh, I know there was a hurricane or 2 (x,000 miles away) but someone needs to do the job. Word of mouth is spreading on my now long awaited cache, but it wont get listed. Bugs might be involved, the big ftf, token ftf prizes, etc. We are Here in MN, mostly un-affected for the most part (aside from gas pirces). We ALL have our daily grind, and unfortunately family events and tragedies. We stop caching, being in the caching world. But, the game goes on around us, without any affect.

The geocaching world shouldn't revolve around any single person or process - it needs to be flexible to move forward. WE are stuck in one place, and have been for a long time. Why? Cant a solution be worked out, or is it the usual "Then go build your own site"
We are all seemingly forced to operate within the groundspeak world. So be it.

Other states can, and have worked this out. Lets, Please do something productive with this, and get out of this dead end lock we have with the current situation.

Marsha and Silent Bob · Past MnGCA President Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 6261

Wisconsin has an approver because as part of the WIDNR's deal with Groundspeak and WGA to get caches onto DNR lands was to have a local approver.
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Sad state of affairs.

Rouster · Geocacher Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 104

Would our DNR be willing to strike the same deal?

mtn-man had no comments about my recently approved cache, so I have no complaints about him.

Personally, it shouldn't matter where the approver is located. NO local approver is going out to verify any location. The tools they use are available Worldwide.

As the number of caches expands, only mtn_man can tell us whether the workload has exceed his limit.

mtn_man: I wish you and your family well.

Marsha and Silent Bob · Past MnGCA President Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 6261

spinowner · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:04 am Post subject:

mtn-man,
Several questions: On average, how much time per week do you spend on everything necessary to approve caches in Minnesota? Do you cover other states? Does anyone else approve caches in Minnesota? Do approvers have the flexibility to hand off part of their workload to other approvers when a backlog piles up? Is there anything that would prevent a Minnesotan from handling this responsibility?
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Marsha and Silent Bob · Past MnGCA President Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 6261

I can answer some of those:

Marsha and Silent Bob · Past MnGCA President Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 6261

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=3cbab034-935f-4aad-8bf5-62eba5237a43
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Sad state of affairs.

dmnrec · Geocacher Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 480 Location: Duluth

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=0d47656f-67c9-4114-bfb9-3d0fb3c28b87

I thought at first he was personally checking it out..but wrong beach.

Moe the Sleaze · Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:38 am Post subject:

rickrich · Geocacher Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Posts: 673

4+ days. Time before that was 5+ days.