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Mn-treker
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Tha is a very good list. I think that every geocache planter should be required to check thier counties web site before planting a geocache.
Case in point GC42DXJ, this one wound up on private property.
From the logs an irate nearby land owner played vigilantie.
He went after these geocachers claiming to own the land.
He did not, I looked it up. This could have turned very ugly.
It looks like the reviewer missed this as private.
Wetlands and brush areas are not public, unless owned by the Government. Too many people seem to not know this. A check of the county web site will show who owns what.
I have used these for many years now for hunting. They are a great help. |
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MN.Fruitcake
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Joined: 18 Oct 2010
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| Mn-treker wrote: |
| It looks like the reviewer missed this as private. |
Keep in mind that it's not the reviewer's job to determine if it's private or not; the responsibility of knowing who's land the cache is hidden on rests squarely on the shoulders of the cache hider.
In some cases the reviewer may check the land ownership information when it's available, but this is typically just in cases where the reviewer has pretty good reason to believe that the cache isn't on public land and permission details aren't noted on the cache page. |
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Rustynails
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Joined: 27 Oct 2009
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| I think there’s something in the air or water in the northern suburbs. I was caching there a few weeks ago and twice was confronted by an irate neighbor. One was just a stop sign cache and the other at a dead end near a highway fence. One even threw a rock at me as I was driving away. The other one claimed ownership of the whole neighborhood? |
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AerosmithPA
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Joined: 19 Nov 2005
Posts: 529
Location: Grand Rapids
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| MN.Fruitcake wrote: |
| Mn-treker wrote: |
| It looks like the reviewer missed this as private. |
Keep in mind that it's not the reviewer's job to determine if it's private or not; the responsibility of knowing who's land the cache is hidden on rests squarely on the shoulders of the cache hider. |
I'm behind the reviewers 100% on this one.
From the guidelines: "By submitting a cache listing, you assure us that you have adequate permission to hide your cache in the selected location. If you have permission to place a cache on private property, indicate this on the cache listing for the benefit of the reviewer and those seeking the cache."
It may just be easier when submitting a cache for publishing that land ownership is established, whether private or public, in a note to reviewer. It may just speed up the process for all. |
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Moe the Sleaze
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Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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Location: Champlin, MN
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A previous Minnesota reviewer was told more than once by hiders, when asked, that the land their cache was hidden on "wasn't owned by anybody." Sorry folks, no such thing.
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15Tango
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Joined: 17 Dec 2002
Posts: 825
Location: St. Paul
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| Rustynails wrote: |
| I think there’s something in the air or water in the northern suburbs. I was caching there a few weeks ago and twice was confronted by an irate neighbor. One was just a stop sign cache and the other at a dead end near a highway fence. One even threw a rock at me as I was driving away. The other one claimed ownership of the whole neighborhood? |
I remember one in the Mendota Heights area where the neighbors in the only house on a cul-de-sac were up in arms about cachers coming out to seek a cache placed on the public right-of-way on the opposite side of cul-de-sac from their house. And another one I've mentioned before where someone came over from the house on the other side of a park (I think I was in White Bear Lake, or whatever burb is on the other side of the freeway from WBL), asked what I was doing, and said I was trespassing (even though we were standing right next to a park sign, which I pointed out to the gentleman). In cases like those, where we know we're right and can look up the property in question on the county websites to prove we are right, it isn't worth fighting for when there's plenty of other places to stick a cache (I think there's still one or two empty stop signs and bus stops 0.1 miles from other caches in St. Paul).
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beagleboo
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King Boreas
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THAT is a ~#@%&*^ incredible link. THANKS! |
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beagleboo
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