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When is a find a FTF?
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ST11
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is why LTF always works (latest to find)

All my finds are LTF Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bflentje wrote:

What the dog said.. the first dog that is, oh, and the second dog too.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: When is a find a FTF? Reply with quote

KRedEP wrote:
bflentje wrote:

BTW, how do you all feel about group FTF's? Not sure where I stand as an on-again-off-again FTF hound wannabe.
Sometimes I claim them, sometimes I don't, depending on how I feel at the time, and the circumstances.

Why would you not claim group FTF's?? Smile
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EPMinnesota
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ST11 wrote:
This is why LTF always works (latest to find)

All my finds are LTF Cool


I thought LTF was "last to find" as in the last person to find it because they are picking up a cache for the owner so it can be archived.
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KRedEP
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:31 am    Post subject: Re: When is a find a FTF? Reply with quote

pfalstad wrote:
KRedEP wrote:
bflentje wrote:

BTW, how do you all feel about group FTF's? Not sure where I stand as an on-again-off-again FTF hound wannabe.
Sometimes I claim them, sometimes I don't, depending on how I feel at the time, and the circumstances.

Why would you not claim group FTF's?? Smile

The ones I'm thinking of off hand are the all day FTF's that are tied to an event. Anyone who finds it all day gets the FTF. I don't remember if I've claimed them or not - maybe did. They just don't feel like an FTF. I am also hit and miss on sharing an FTF on a tribute. Sometimes I do, often I don't.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know when Iím FTF and I know when Iím not. If there was a cache prize, I'd play a whole lot different. There's not, so I'll just keep doing it for the socializing.
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King Boreas
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EPMinnesota wrote:


I thought LTF was "last to find" as in the last person to find it because they are picking up a cache for the owner so it can be archived.


That's "bad form"

It shows that the CO is lazy, or unable to maintain caches.

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I Spy.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:13 pm    Post subject: Re: When is a find a FTF? Reply with quote

minnstars wrote:
KRedEP wrote:
bflentje wrote:

BTW, how do you all feel about group FTF's? Not sure where I stand as an on-again-off-again FTF hound wannabe.
Sometimes I claim them, sometimes I don't, depending on how I feel at the time, and the circumstances.


I'm not much of a hound anymore, but I enjoy sharing FTF as long as everyone arrives at GZ about the same time and the log is unsigned. In the case of a WNC arranged so everyone can claim FTF on a new cache or caches, I have also done this on several occasions and think this is a fun tradition. If it is a tribute cache however, like a 1,000 finds cache, I usually don't claim FTF, but I don't see anything wrong with this if the CO and person for whom the tribute is for agree.


Arriving at GZ at about the same time is an important but subtle point. I know we've heard of situations where a cacher has missed an FTF by a few minutes while in other cases a FTF was kept open waiting for others to arrive. I lean toward the middle ground, but probably only because I'm more interested in the FTF party and beer following the find. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:35 pm    Post subject: Re: When is a find a FTF? Reply with quote

I Spy. wrote:
minnstars wrote:
KRedEP wrote:
bflentje wrote:

BTW, how do you all feel about group FTF's? Not sure where I stand as an on-again-off-again FTF hound wannabe.
Sometimes I claim them, sometimes I don't, depending on how I feel at the time, and the circumstances.


I'm not much of a hound anymore, but I enjoy sharing FTF as long as everyone arrives at GZ about the same time and the log is unsigned. In the case of a WNC arranged so everyone can claim FTF on a new cache or caches, I have also done this on several occasions and think this is a fun tradition. If it is a tribute cache however, like a 1,000 finds cache, I usually don't claim FTF, but I don't see anything wrong with this if the CO and person for whom the tribute is for agree.


Arriving at GZ at about the same time is an important but subtle point. I know we've heard of situations where a cacher has missed an FTF by a few minutes while in other cases a FTF was kept open waiting for others to arrive. I lean toward the middle ground, but probably only because I'm more interested in the FTF party and beer following the find. Very Happy


Wait ... party and beer? I may have to rethink my aversion to FTFs.
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JJnTJ
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm definitely going for more FTFs in I Spy.'s territory now. Razz
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bflentje
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: When is a find a FTF? Reply with quote

KRedEP wrote:
pfalstad wrote:
KRedEP wrote:
bflentje wrote:

BTW, how do you all feel about group FTF's? Not sure where I stand as an on-again-off-again FTF hound wannabe.
Sometimes I claim them, sometimes I don't, depending on how I feel at the time, and the circumstances.

Why would you not claim group FTF's?? Smile

The ones I'm thinking of off hand are the all day FTF's that are tied to an event. Anyone who finds it all day gets the FTF.


Group FTF's are strange but still ok with me. If you weren't in the group? That would get you eyerolls for sure..
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pfalstad
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:45 pm    Post subject: Re: When is a find a FTF? Reply with quote

KRedEP wrote:
pfalstad wrote:
Why would you not claim group FTF's?? Smile

The ones I'm thinking of off hand are the all day FTF's that are tied to an event. Anyone who finds it all day gets the FTF. I don't remember if I've claimed them or not - maybe did. They just don't feel like an FTF.

I haven't heard of those. I can see why they don't feel like a legitimate FTF, cause they're not. Smile

BTW I just want to emphasize what I said earlier, that finds definitely do not count as FTF's unless they're post-publication.. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I agree with aspects of every single prior post, especially the dogs and my fellow BS39er! Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I get lucky enough to find a cache before it gets published, I'll claim an FTF, but I usually label them Pre-Publication FTFs. I'd have no problem with the first person finding it after publication claiming a Post-Publication FTF as well.

I got one of the Baker Road caches the other day where I was the third person to find it Pre-Publication. That was funny. I opened the log thinking it would be blank, but Qwerty and DoubleMoose had found it on different days before I got there.
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ST11
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EPMinnesota wrote:
ST11 wrote:
This is why LTF always works (latest to find)

All my finds are LTF Cool


I thought LTF was "last to find" as in the last person to find it because they are picking up a cache for the owner so it can be archived.


Perhaps NFTF would work then (not first to find)
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