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tonkaMN
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it just me, or are the new geocaching maps EXTREMELY slow?
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beagleboo
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tonkaMN wrote:
Is it just me, or are the new geocaching maps EXTREMELY slow?

Slow and map not fully loading for me.
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rosebud55112
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tonkaMN wrote:
Is it just me, or are the new geocaching maps EXTREMELY slow?


Definitely not just you.
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WestSideDaddy
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it looks like they have switch completely from google maps now. Probably because google was going to start charging for maps api usage.
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Hunter-Killer
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is being discussed on Their Blog Latitude 47

I was hoping it would be compatible with my ipad...no dice. I can now see the caches but can not get any info off them. Crying or Very sad
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seamusbleu
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it just new to me, or did they finally get rid of the beta status for the maps. They have a different look too. Possibly because they switched away from google maps?
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Red_Devil35
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rosebud55112 wrote:
tonkaMN wrote:
Is it just me, or are the new geocaching maps EXTREMELY slow?


Definitely not just you.


Me too. They stink.
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RudeRat
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WestSideDaddy wrote:
So it looks like they have switch completely from google maps now. Probably because google was going to start charging for maps api usage.

For what we pay, we should get the good(premium) maps.
-1 Groundspeak. At least they are consistent.
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timewellspent
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RudeRat wrote:
WestSideDaddy wrote:
So it looks like they have switch completely from google maps now. Probably because google was going to start charging for maps api usage.

For what we pay, we should get the good(premium) maps.
-1 Groundspeak. At least they are consistent.


Hmm- There are over 5 million geocachers worldwide and say 1% has a premium membership that's only $1,500,000.00 not including the money made on ads and coin/tb tracking. I would love to know the real number of paid premium members, but I bet that is kept pretty close to the vest. You would hate for the non-paid reviewers to start thinking too much about how they seem to be lining the pockets of a select few. Confused
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swfan
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate the new maps too. They dont show the park area's very well or at all in most of the parks.
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Pear Head
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't seen the maps (yet).

Keep in mind in all of the discussion about premium memberships (and my purpose here isn't to defend Groundspeak although it may appear that way at first), that Groundspeak has a pretty substantial staff, building/office space, server costs, etc.

I'm not sure how the math comes out, and I'm absolutely positive that there's a profit margin in the whole equation, but keep in mind that they're using our premium membership fees for other things as well.
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bflentje
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The maps stink. I don't know what the solution is.
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Draconisdax
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=290420

At any rate...I am hopeful it is a temporary solution until Groundspeak gets something figured out...I will not blame Groundspeak for this...but I will point a finger (and not the bad one) at google...

I just step back and think how many times I load a cache page and how ofter that pulls a map and how often I look at the larger map...etc...etc...etc...take that by all the members (premium or not) that visit geocaching.com...and yeah, I don't blame Grounspeak at all for this move...as I said...I am hopeful it is temporary until a better idea/solution comes along.

Besides...I cache with a GPS...not the maps on the page...those just give me ideas on where the cache is...so, overall, I don't see it as big of an issue that some are making it out to be.
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Draconisdax
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swfan wrote:
I hate the new maps too. They dont show the park area's very well or at all in most of the parks.


In my common area of caching...the google maps didn't list the parks in the proper place anyway...so, not really seeing a lose yet in regards to "accuracy"...
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WestSideDaddy
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

timewellspent wrote:
RudeRat wrote:
WestSideDaddy wrote:
So it looks like they have switch completely from google maps now. Probably because google was going to start charging for maps api usage.

For what we pay, we should get the good(premium) maps.
-1 Groundspeak. At least they are consistent.


Hmm- There are over 5 million geocachers worldwide and say 1% has a premium membership that's only $1,500,000.00 not including the money made on ads and coin/tb tracking. I would love to know the real number of paid premium members, but I bet that is kept pretty close to the vest. You would hate for the non-paid reviewers to start thinking too much about how they seem to be lining the pockets of a select few. Confused



Wow... though looking at the google map charges. According to the GC blog, they do 2 million map loads a day. Subtract the 25,000 free a day and then charge $4 per 1000 map loads = $7.900 a day or $2.8 million dollars a year.

Wow. But for google that isn't anything, a drop of a drop in a really biiiigggg bucket. And only .35 percent of sites are supposed to be impacted. Seems like a strange decision on the google side since their increase in revenue isn't going to be much, but their image is gonna take a hit.

But it does put GC in a tough spot, increase revenues to cover the API cost (or cut expenses and decrease value) or switch to a different mapping service which might not be as good.
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