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bflentje
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:38 am    Post subject: Attributes Reply with quote

Not sure how long they've been there but just noticed some cool new attributes today.

- Tree Climbing
- Seasonal Access (puts that snowflake debate to rest)
- Tourist Friendly
- Front Yard (private residence)
- Teamwork Required
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sigilwig44
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:34 am    Post subject: Re: Attributes Reply with quote

bflentje wrote:
Not sure how long they've been there but just noticed some cool new attributes today.

- Tree Climbing
- Seasonal Access (puts that snowflake debate to rest)
- Tourist Friendly
- Front Yard (private residence)
- Teamwork Required


I noticed those too. It was implemented in the latest update.

bfjente wrote:
(puts that snowflake debate to rest)


What was (and is) the snowflake debate?
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team_geomonkey
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just also noticed the "show beginner caches" option when doing a pocket query. If you check that box you get this message: Beginner caches are highlighted in green below and are recommended for new geocachers. Scroll to the bottom and uncheck the setting "Highlight beginner caches" to stop highlighting caches
Is this a new feature??
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JJnTJ
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Attributes Reply with quote

sigilwig44 wrote:
What was (and is) the snowflake debate?


Here's my understanding. The "snowflake" attribute says that the cache is "available in the winter". Some people take this to mean different things:

1) it's "winter-friendly" - not on the ground, not in the water, etc.
2) literally "available in winter" - the owner doesn't remove the cache during winter months; it is there waiting to be found.

Critics of #2 assert that if the container is removed during winter, the cache should be disabled until the container is replaced. Saying that an enabled cache is "available" is redundant; the cache is there, even if encased in ice underneath 12 feet of hard-packed snow. How bad do you want it?

Critics of #1 assert that winters in this godforsaken state are so unpredictable, calling something "winter-friendly" is just setting people up for disappointment. Like when a plow dumps 5000 cubic feet of dense-packed snow on the hide-a-key on a guardrail.

You can probably search the forum for "snowflake" or "winter friendly" to get a better feel for the debate.

In my limited experience, #1 is the more common view, and it's useful enough that I have a little "*" displayed on my 60CSx if the owner selected the attribute.
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Guitar Solo
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

team_geomonkey wrote:
I just also noticed the "show beginner caches" option when doing a pocket query. If you check that box you get this message: Beginner caches are highlighted in green below and are recommended for new geocachers. Scroll to the bottom and uncheck the setting "Highlight beginner caches" to stop highlighting caches
Is this a new feature??

As never seeing it before, I belive it is new. I may use this when caching with younger people or people that really don't get geocaching.
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swfan
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The maximum number of attributes is 15 now. Is that also new from the last update?
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Pear Head
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are all apparently new in the last update:

http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=279237
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bflentje
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Attributes Reply with quote

JJnTJ wrote:
sigilwig44 wrote:
What was (and is) the snowflake debate?


Here's my understanding. The "snowflake" attribute says that the cache is "available in the winter". Some people take this to mean different things:

1) it's "winter-friendly" - not on the ground, not in the water, etc.
2) literally "available in winter" - the owner doesn't remove the cache during winter months; it is there waiting to be found.

Critics of #2 assert that if the container is removed during winter, the cache should be disabled until the container is replaced. Saying that an enabled cache is "available" is redundant; the cache is there, even if encased in ice underneath 12 feet of hard-packed snow. How bad do you want it?

Critics of #1 assert that winters in this godforsaken state are so unpredictable, calling something "winter-friendly" is just setting people up for disappointment. Like when a plow dumps 5000 cubic feet of dense-packed snow on the hide-a-key on a guardrail.

You can probably search the forum for "snowflake" or "winter friendly" to get a better feel for the debate.

In my limited experience, #1 is the more common view, and it's useful enough that I have a little "*" displayed on my 60CSx if the owner selected the attribute.


To clarify, the snowflake icon has/had two different definitions depending where on geocaching.com you were looking. I do not know if they are yet consistent but I would guess they are.
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sigilwig44
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

team_geomonkey wrote:
I just also noticed the "show beginner caches" option when doing a pocket query. If you check that box you get this message: Beginner caches are highlighted in green below and are recommended for new geocachers. Scroll to the bottom and uncheck the setting "Highlight beginner caches" to stop highlighting caches
Is this a new feature??


Yes! That's new too. I wonder how they determine that?

JJnTJ wrote:
sigilwig44 wrote:
What was (and is) the snowflake debate
Here's my understanding. The "snowflake" attribute says that the cache is "available in the winter". Some people take this to mean different things:

1) it's "winter-friendly" - not on the ground, not in the water, etc.
2) literally "available in winter" - the owner doesn't remove the cache during winter months; it is there waiting to be found.

Critics of #2 assert that if the container is removed during winter, the cache should be disabled until the container is replaced. Saying that an enabled cache is "available" is redundant; the cache is there, even if encased in ice underneath 12 feet of hard-packed snow. How bad do you want it?

Critics of #1 assert that winters in this godforsaken state are so unpredictable, calling something "winter-friendly" is just setting people up for disappointment. Like when a plow dumps 5000 cubic feet of dense-packed snow on the hide-a-key on a guardrail.

You can probably search the forum for "snowflake" or "winter friendly" to get a better feel for the debate.

In my limited experience, #1 is the more common view, and it's useful enough that I have a little "*" displayed on my 60CSx if the owner selected the attribute.


Ahhhh...

swfan wrote:
The maximum number of attributes is 15 now. Is that also new from the last update?


Yup, that too. I like that new feature!

Pear Head wrote:
These are all apparently new in the last update:

http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=279237


TFTL (thanks for the link) Laughing.

sigilwig44 wrote:
I wonder how they determine that?


Quote:
Added an option in search results to highlight "beginner caches" (low difficulty/traditional type/recently found etc.)


Ahhhhh... didn't see that.
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Pear Head
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've broken out most of the discussion that wasn't related to this thread here:

http://mngca.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6198
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