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bobhiker
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Thank you all for your thoughtful ideas. I recently received and email from Mr. Quinn with the MN DNR. I have not heard from him in a couple of months so I was just asking what their most recent position was on Geocaching in MN State Parks. Here is his response.

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As you surmised, we are very busy this time of year. However, a small
group of Division staff have been working on developing a geocaching
policy for MNDNR-Parks and we are very close to having it done. One of
the things we discussed was whether to incorporate a more extensive
review of the policy before allowing any geocaching or utilizing the
comments we already have from the MN Geocaching Association and others,
get a policy in place to begin allowing geocaching according to policy
guidelines and do a review at the end of the first year. We decided to
pursue the latter. If all goes well, we anticipate having a policy in
place sometime in June.

If you have any specific questions, please let me know. Otherwise, I'm
sure we'll be in touch with the MN Geocaching Association at the point
that we have a policy in place.



Ed Quinn
Natural Resource Program Coordinator
Minnesota Department of Natural Resources
Division of Parks and Recreation
500 Lafayette Road
St. Paul, MN 55155-4039


Once again, thank you all for your ideas. It looks like we will be able to cache soon in our State Parks. When the policy is introduced and made available, please be courtious and work with the park in which you are caching so that geocaching can benefit both parks and cachers. Thanks again, Bobhiker.
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King Boreas
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very impressive ! THANKS Rob
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s4xton
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2003 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like I'll be buying a MN State Parks annual pass soon. Wink
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Kitch
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2003 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it has been 4 or 5 yrs since I've bought a state year long pass. Its about time I consider putting some $$ back to the state parks again.
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MN Lost Boy
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 10:57 am    Post subject: State Park Caches.... Reply with quote

Last week we traveled to Missouri and found a cache placed by the Missouri State park rangers... It was a fun cache...
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=44353

Perhaps someone is interested in how they came to place this one???

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MN Lost Boy
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 11:15 am    Post subject: DNR reply Reply with quote

I just asked the DNR what was the status of there decision and here is the reply I recieved...


The state park system is currently nearing completion of a policy that will allow geocaching in designated areas. By the time the policy is finalized and parks make time to designate areas, we anticipate that it will likely be fall before one can actually geocache in state parks. We will be in contact with the MN Geocaching Association and probably have the change posted on our website so watch those two locations for further details.

Lost Boy Very Happy
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Jillibean
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's really great news. Many of my favorite hikes are through our state park system, I'll be glad when we can bring other people to these areas through geocaching, regardless of where or how many caches we're allowed to place.
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welch
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So how are things coming along on this Question
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bobhiker
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Sorry we have not posted anything more current in the last few months. I have been trying to email the folks at the DNR and the emails all kept coming back as rejected. I was wondering if they had blocked all incoming emails from geocachers.
I just talked to Mr. Quinn today. He was quick to return my call. He said that the DNR computers were set up to reject most emails due to a virus that they had in their system. That should be working normal soon.
The geocaching policy is written, revised, and is sitting on an administrators desk waiting for final approval. Once it is approved, then it has to get on their web site. They will then notify us and we will post a link to their policy page. I am personally guessing about another month and a half minimum.
I am not sure what the particulars will be, but this will only cover geocaching in the MN State Park system. I am guessing there will be a list of which parks and how many will be allowed. Working with a local park manager will also be required.
Once the policy comes out they will monitor it pretty closely the first year to see how it works. Thank you for your patience in this matter. Laughing
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bobhiker
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confused Hey guys. I just received an email from Mr. Quinn of the MN DNR concerning Geocaching. I looks like maybe spring before we can cache in our State Parks.

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Mr. Sime,

When we talked a month or so ago, I told you that the Division
geocaching policy for MN State Parks was nearly completed. However,
since we haven't notified the MN Geocaching Association yet or posted it
on our website, I thought I should take a minute to touch base and let
you know where we're at.

During the final review of the policy and in communication with the
Commissioner's office, it was noted that we have a rule (6100.1650
-subp. 2 & subp. 3) that prohibits leaving of personal items in state
parks and that our geocaching policy would provide an exception to that
rule. There is currently a question in the Department regarding whether
policies alone can be used to manage visitors or if rule-making is
needed. In this particular case (geocaching) the question is whether a
separate rule is needed to allow geocaches to be left in state parks
(where personal property cannot be left) or whether our policy can be
used to provide further direction as to how a rule is implemented. The
current rule does allow for park manager approval to be a factor, and we
expect that may help. We are in communication with the Commissioner's
office on this question and others that apply to our Division, but since
this is a Department-wide review of rules/policies, it will likely take
awhile. Given the time of year, we are anticipating at this point that
we will be able to have things in place by next spring/summer.





Ed Quinn
Natural Resource Program Coordinator
Minnesota Department of Natural Resources
Division of Parks and Recreation
500 Lafayette Road
St. Paul, MN 55155-4039
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towlebooth
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My how slow the wheels of change turn! But progress is progress and I'll happily take it. Thanks for sharing this bobhiker!
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Lyverbird
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:28 am    Post subject: Lake Maria S.P. Reply with quote

Well, I'm delighted to say that the manager at Lake Maria SP in Wright county has told me that I may place a cache there as soon as it's leagal. Of course I will have to let him work with me on placement spot, but that's ok.

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rickrich
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a classic SNAFU. If it wasn't *our* DNR, I'd be ROFLMAO.
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rickrich
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, its spring now, and we will soon be well into the DNR's "busy time of the year" again (see May 21, 2003 post above).

Is there any news to report?

-Rick

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Marsha and Silent Bob
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rickrich wrote:
Well, its spring now, and we will soon be well into the DNR's "busy time of the year" again (see May 21, 2003 post above).

When we were down in MO I was introduced to one of the people that heads the State Parks system... She was the one that was put in charge of creating a Geocaching policy.

She scoured the Midwest looking for previous policies and found that she would be working from scratch. She had mentioned that she spoke w/(dropped someone's name that I don't remember -- our DNR guy) back then but of course they were "working on it". I told her they still are.

Apparently other states in the Midwest have copied or at least built off of MO's policies. I really wish that MN would make good on their efforts to work w/us. It was great being able to cache in PA's state parks and MO's... The possibilities are endless in ours.

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