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Grey Wolf and Wild Rice Geocacher

Joined: 31 May 2005
Posts: 341 Location: White Bear Township
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:29 pm Post subject: Garmin Software |
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Another Magellan user is about to bite the dust and get a Garmin 60CSX.
But I am confused about the software offered.
Garmin MapSource Topographic CD....What does this do? Can you navigate to street level like the City Navigator CD? Can you see buildings on the TOPO maps like USGS paper maps?
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Mapsource City Navigator North American CD....Is this all you really need?
There seems to be package offerings of the TOPO CD and GPS unit, but the City Navigator only comes alone or in a package with 12v cord and mount.
Or should I get both?
Are any free maps available online to download.
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LucidOndine Past MnGCA President

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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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I use a 60CSX with City Select, which from what I've been told is the predecessor of City Navigator. From what I recall, the topo maps do not include any additional city streets to autoroute by, for what its worth.
I strongly advocate all Magellan users to make the switch  _________________ The Lucid Network (tm)-- More Bars in More Places! |
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Grey Wolf and Wild Rice Geocacher

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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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| LucidOndine wrote: |
| I use a 60CSX with City Select, which from what I've been told is the predecessor of City Navigator. |
Isn't City Select the software included with the basic GPS package? |
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Marsha and Silent Bob Past MnGCA President
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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The base GPS doesn't include anything but a base map for North America. You can autoroute on it but it only includes main roads and not much else.
City Select is a $100+ map product which you can load onto the unit. It includes very detailed roads and points of interest.
As Lucid said, you cannot autoroute on Topo. _________________ Sad state of affairs. |
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RubberToes Geocacher

Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Posts: 222 Location: Apple Valley
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Right, the topo won't help you with autorouting, but you can have both the topo maps and City Navigator loaded in the unit at the same time.
If such is the case, City Nav. will always be the default map shown. However, if you get off in the backwoods somewhere and want to use the topo maps, you can go in and switch City Nav. off temporarily.
Then you'll be able to see the countour lines and usually more detail about lakes and streams. In some cases, the topos also have trails marked. I found this handy when I was at Isle Royal National Park, and I found all the park trail on the topo.
Of course the both the Topo and City Navigator are extra money, so you have to decide what you can spend. You can autoroute without any additional maps, but it will only use major highways. You'll be able to get from Minneapolis to Houston, but once you get off the highways, it won't be any help.
When I bought mine recently, I bought the Auto Navigation Kit sold at Amazon. It included City Navigator plus a car power adapter, and dashboard mounting system. You might check that out. |
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Marsha and Silent Bob Past MnGCA President
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| RubberToes wrote: |
| Of course the both the Topo and City Navigator are extra money, so you have to decide what you can spend. You can autoroute without any additional maps, but it will only use major highways. You'll be able to get from Minneapolis to Houston, but once you get off the highways, it won't be any help. |
There are some main roads off of the highways but not enough to get you to someone's home address on a side street. _________________ Sad state of affairs. |
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Grey Wolf and Wild Rice Geocacher

Joined: 31 May 2005
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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| RubberToes wrote: |
| Right, the topo won't help you with autorouting, |
That's what I was wondering. I had looked at the screen shots of the TOPO on Garmin's website. You could see side streets, but there were no names on them.
I had been looking mainly at Amazon, as they seemed to have good prices. theGPSstore.com also looks competative, also. |
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GeoPierce Geocacher

Joined: 16 Nov 2005
Posts: 1657 Location: Eden Prairie, MN
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| RubberToes wrote: |
| When I bought mine recently, I bought the Auto Navigation Kit sold at Amazon. It included City Navigator plus a car power adapter, and dashboard mounting system. You might check that out. |
I also bought a Garmin 60Cx recently and got City Navigator 8, the car mount and car power cord separately. I love the autorouting and also being able to search for gas stations, restaurants and shopping (and parks!) on my GPS with City Navigator. But I realized I bought the car power cord for nothing because I can use the car charger for my Motorola Razr and plug it in where the USB cord goes. _________________ Tupperware doesn't belong in the kitchen! |
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bflentje Geocacher

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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| RubberToes wrote: |
| Right, the topo won't help you with autorouting, but you can have both the topo maps and City Navigator loaded in the unit at the same time. |
You'll have to explain how you do this. Maybe I missed some of the documentation. Sounds like a good idea. I always assumed you were only allowed a single mapset. |
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GeoPierce Geocacher

Joined: 16 Nov 2005
Posts: 1657 Location: Eden Prairie, MN
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| bflentje wrote: |
| RubberToes wrote: |
| Right, the topo won't help you with autorouting, but you can have both the topo maps and City Navigator loaded in the unit at the same time. |
You'll have to explain how you do this. Maybe I missed some of the documentation. Sounds like a good idea. I always assumed you were only allowed a single mapset. |
I don't have topo maps but I think it is in the manual on page 40 or 45 for a 60Cx: http://www.garmin.com/manuals/GPSMAP60Cx_OwnersManual.pdf _________________ Tupperware doesn't belong in the kitchen! |
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Moe the Sleaze Geocacher

Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Posts: 1131 Location: Champlin, MN
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Remember, with the "x" models, you can have City Select on one memory card and topo on another. Then just swap 'em out as needed. _________________ "Hi, I'm Moe, or as the women know me - Hey! You in the bushes."
-Moe, The Simpsons |
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Dances With Beehives Geocacher

Joined: 12 Sep 2003
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Grey Wolf and Wild Rice wrote:
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| Isn't City Select the software included with the basic GPS package? |
It might, depending on the model. I got it with my Garmin V, along with a nice dash mount that I never use. I very seldom use the topo program that I bought separately.
City Select is a very handy tool, and not just for caching.
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I strongly advocate all Magellan users to make the switch |
I have to agree! _________________ ...formerly 'dachebo'. |
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Dances With Beehives Geocacher

Joined: 12 Sep 2003
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Moe the Sleaze wrote:
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| Remember, with the "x" models, you can have City Select on one memory card and topo on another. Then just swap 'em out as needed. |
Cool. _________________ ...formerly 'dachebo'. |
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RubberToes Geocacher

Joined: 13 Feb 2005
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| bflentje wrote: |
| RubberToes wrote: |
| Right, the topo won't help you with autorouting, but you can have both the topo maps and City Navigator loaded in the unit at the same time. |
You'll have to explain how you do this. Maybe I missed some of the documentation. Sounds like a good idea. I always assumed you were only allowed a single mapset. |
In Mapsource, show your topo maps and select some. Then switch to your City Navigator maps and select some. Your map panel will show that you have maps from both sets selected.
Download them as usual.
Then go to your map on the GPSr. City Navigator will be showing by default. Hit Menu | Setup Map.
On the map setup page, cursor over to the "i" button and there click menu again. Now you'll have an option to "Hide City Navigator." Select it, and you will see the topo maps. When you're ready to go back on the road, go back and "Show City Navigator" and you'll be able to autoroute.
Hope this helps.
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RubberToes Geocacher

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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Moe the Sleaze wrote: |
| Remember, with the "x" models, you can have City Select on one memory card and topo on another. Then just swap 'em out as needed. |
This might be possible, but those miniSD cards are pretty small. I wouldn't want to try swapping one in in the field. Talk about a needle in a haystack if you drop one.
For my money, it's easier to switch between the two maps with a couple of button clicks. |
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