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miles58 · Geocacher Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 196

To the MNGCA board and MNGCA:

The discussions here illuminate differences between members with some underlying tensions. I have been working on a major CITO that will need help and I am not encouraged by anything in this discussion. To the contrary, I am now quite concerned about stepping on someones toes or stepping on a land mine. Having only been a member for a very short time I don't begin to know all of what is going on here, but it sure looks to me like it is more than what lies on the surface.

I don't know what your intent was. I dont know anything other than what has been posted here. I do know that it has made me very seriously rethink my plans. That rethinking includes of necessity resigning my membership, which since this is not really a formal relationship may really be more a formal announcement of my severance of any and all relationship with MNGCA. Then proceeding with my plans and just handling it as a simple Geocaching cache seperate from any link or connection with MNGCA as seems clearly desired by the board of MNGCA.

That to me is wholly counter to the purpose of having an organization. CITO is a worthy project for MNGCA. MNGCA should be an organization to further communal objectives of it's members. Granted, the board has the authority to act for the group, and needs to be able to do so. But, why *should* the board act in a matter that poses no threat to the organization without finding a consensus from the members? It is not at all like you couldn't hold a form of general meeting to seek consensus on line. Having attended the annual meeting the identification procedures there were less rigorous than for me to express myself here.

Your lack of openness, and while you may not have intended the autonomous position you have wound up in, that autonomy has now caused a problem that affects me. I need to know in blunt terms what the heck were you thinking and why so that I may decide how I wish to proceed. The discussion so far has focused on who did what, who said what. I want to know from you why personalyyou did what you did. I don't know any of you. I don't want to guess at why.

We are technically literate enough to facilitate on line discussion and information exchange necessary to make an organization function
decently. Why aren't we doing it?

Marsha and Silent Bob · Past MnGCA President Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 6261

From Article 4, Section 3 of the MnGCA Bylaws:

Pear Head · Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:59 am Post subject:

miles58 · Geocacher Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 196

Marsha and Silent Bob · Past MnGCA President Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 6261

Please see here: http://www.mngca.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=15701#15701 for information regarding obtaining the 2005 MnGCA Board Meeting Minutes.
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Sad state of affairs.

JT · Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:19 am Post subject:

We have been informed from groundspeak.com that mtn-man will unarchive the cache per Centris' wishes.

-JT

King Boreas · Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:34 am Post subject:

With the recent attention on this topic, I'd like to mention that the City of Saint Paul was very generous for the Earth Day CITO. My wonderful co-host was able to get dozens of pairs of gloves and 100's of garbage bags. If you're going to organize a CITO event, don't be afraid to ask the park for assistance.

Marsha and Silent Bob · Past MnGCA President Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 6261

The original topic of this thread "CITO Day Cache - Archived" has now run its course and because the cache will be unarchived per Centris' wishes there is no further discussion required on this specific topic.

Locked.
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Sad state of affairs.